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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: Gime a Magical SPELL to transform someone |
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Gime a Magical SPELL to transform someone
Why do I want a Magical SPELL to transform someone?
I won’t tell you directly but riddle-me-this:
“How do Porcupines mate?”
I come from saltcube. I joined on 27 July 08. I got invited to another site and was given a membership there with an unusual promise from the site owner. He said, “You won’t get banned from here”.
Whenever I posted there the owner verbally tore me to shreds. But I couldn’t help going back and back and back. The owner kept saying, “Go back to saltcube, that’s where you belong. You can’t “see”, you just think, think, think.”
I was/am intrigued by this guy. I checked out his oldest posts on saltcube amd elsewhere and back in 05 he was like a friendly, full-of-the-joys-of-spring, fluffy-tailed bunny rabbit. But clearly things went wrong and now he is like a thick-skinned, sabre-toothed, thing with sharp barbs growing out of his body. He is a vicious porcupine.
Thing is, this guy is MAGNIFICENT in dream power. He is an exceptional remote viewer and he can “merge” with the “Deep Mind” and come into a persons dreams and reveries.
I NEED to transform this guy into some thing sweet and soft. Can anyone help me, please?
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: It has begun |
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It has begun
Remote Viewing Target {002 21 Oct 09}
Has been labeled and photographed
The label to hone-in on is:
002 21 Oct 09
Anyone who joins this Remote Viewing Laboratory thread will be rewarded.
This is what I will do:
Every handle that appears on this thread will be copied onto a list.
I will take the list with me when I go to the beach.
As I walk from Henley Beach Jetty to Grange Jetty I will chant:
“Everything is perfect”
I will ZONK-out (become entranced).
And I will instruct the “Deep Mind” to energize everyone represented on my list and make his or her outer-world enchanted by causing “everything to be perfect”
As I return from Grange Jetty to Henley Jetty along the beach I will chant:
“I am always prepared”
Again, I will ZONK-out (become entranced).
And I will instruct the “Deep Mind” to energize everyone represented on my list, causing him or her to never be caught off-guard. They will find that they are always prepared.
Without effort they will find that their timing is impeccable, and amazing coincidences bring everything together for them so that
“Everything works out perfectly and they are always prepared” without effort.
This is the reward for anyone who participates on this Remote Viewing thread. So, have-a-go, you never know, you might hit.
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: Emotion |
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| If you have an emotional need to redirect this person then I am sure you will find a way to express it. There are no formulaic recipes anyone here can provide you with that will guarantee your success. We do not peddle in amulets and cheap charms here. I recommend you read book 4 by aleister crowley and follow the exercises he provides in it. I do not believe this forum is appropriate for this type of discussion, it is for learning about dreams. Learning how to control your dreams is a rewarding process. Please take some time to read through the archives of this discussion board. |
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:05 am Post subject: ***Thank you Constantine*** |
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Thank you Constantine for your reply.
One way some folk remote view is to go to sleep visualizing a set of numbers and/or letters that are near the target (or that represent the target).
Then, when the remote viewer wakes up, he or she, waits for an inner-image, or review any dreams that can be remembered and searches the dream/s for clues as to what the remote viewing target might be.
You are the first handle on my list. I will go to the beach tomorrow about noon and ask the "Deep Mind" to do its stuff for you.
Folks, you don't have to have a guess at the target to go on the list. Just say something on this thread.
I want to see what positive coincidences happen in your Outer-World after I instruct the "Deep mind" on your behalf.
Love
Debra Jane
6:30 pm Friday 16 Oct 09
here in Adelaide, South Australia.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I'm confused. What in the world are you talking about????  |
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: ***Hi TraceyN*** |
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Hi tracyN
Nice to meet you.
I clicked on your profile and read you 9 prievious posts. Then I read all of you thread called "Any Suggestions on how - can take my Lucid Dreaming further" I hope you repost ypur dream I want to read it.
Then I read the facinating thread that you contributed to called "Facinating Role of the "I" in dreams" begun by Spiral jetty. I got an amazing U-Tube clip that I think answer's some of the Riddle about "The facinating role of the "I" in dreams".
But, I am typing this from my hiptop mobile and it can't add links. So, I got to wait till I finish the cleaning so I can go to an Internet Cafe.
I will think about your Question below and come up with a way of explaining myself. I probably won't get to Netzone Internet Cafe till after 3 pm. It is now 10:30 am here in Adelaide, South Australia, so see you in about 5 or so hours
Bye for now
(BFN Debra Jane)
| TracyN wrote: | | Ok I'm confused. What in the world are you talking about???? |
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: ***2 sleeps to go*** |
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Two Sleeps to go
I am posting a pic of the Remote Viewing target here in about 48 hours.
If you need a bit of inspiration
Try this link.
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=57521
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| UV Frog, what exactly do you do with this remote viewing target? Do you stare at it and try to transmit the image to someone so they can have a lucid dream about it that night? Like dream telepathy or something? |
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| TracyN wrote: | | UV Frog, what exactly do you do with this remote viewing target? Do you stare at it and try to transmit the image to someone so they can have a lucid dream about it that night? Like dream telepathy or something? |
Hi TracyN
I put something on a white plate.
Then I put a label close to it.
The Label for this Remote Viewing Target is 002 and the date it will be posted, so the label is:
002 21 Oct 09.
and that is about it.
Yes, I look at it sometimes but I am not convinced that me looking at it will help folk much.
the link I put in above takes folks to all the Remote Viewing labs held on saltcube befor 2009.
Matt Jones who changed his name to Nick Newport this year (because there were too many Matt Jones on the Internet) did 35 rve's beginning in 2005 then EyeOneBlack did 47 after Matt-Nick's then your very own Owleen did one and your very own CaroleDream did several too. Then I did some under the name Ultra.
I find them addictive reading. I look at them often. That is why I collected them up, together into one thread.
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: ***RV Target 002 21 Oct 09 revealed*** |
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Here is the link to target photo:
I deleated link to target photo in saltcube because I have learned how to put photo's in here (iasd).
Target :
002 21 Oct 09
My Himalayan Natural Crystal Salt Lamp
Remote Viewing Lab 002 21 Oct 09
Began Wednesday 14 Oct 09
Finished Wednesday 21 Oct 09
Participants (0)
Remote Viewing Lab
003 28 Oct 09
Begins now and target photo will be posted next Wednesday 28 Oct 09
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Mary Whitefeather Joyce
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: Remote Viewing Crystal Picture from Debra Jane |
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Hi Debra Jane! UV Frog,
welcome to IASD! from way down under?! hmmm?
Just an interesting synchronicity, last month I had dream of what I called
"Crystal City", I said there were these huge pillar beams like tower like structure sized crystals everywhere as far as you could see...wow...
and then here is your crystal picture 
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Remote Viewing Crystal Picture from Debra Jane |
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| Mary Whitefeather Joyce wrote: | Hi Debra Jane! UV Frog,
welcome to IASD! from way down under?! hmmm?
Just an interesting synchronicity, last month I had dream of what I called
"Crystal City", I said there were these huge pillar beams like tower like structure sized crystals everywhere as far as you could see...wow...
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Thanks for the Welcome "Mary Whitefeather Joyce"
I am very intrigued about synchronicities. I get them too.
I intend to reveal a target every Wednesday here and on saltcube. I won't give up even if nobody plays. It gives me a focus and maybe just one person might already be playing, but not posting, so I won't stop. We are heading into 003 so maybe I will consider stopping after posting target 999 (ha, ha, ha).
Target 999 will be posted in the year 2029 (ha, ha, ha) so don't panic you will have lots and lots of opportunity to practice (with me).
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Diana T
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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I tried, but seem to be singing and listing in my sleep.
On Sunday I dreamt of a lovely school on a mountain above the clouds. I'd signed up for it and was all set to go, but realized shortly before waking that it would take weeks to make the daily trip to work. How did I miss that problem? All throughout the dream, I was listing what was important for the dream (some sort of work). Shortly before awaking, I was listing what I wanted to remember, but actually wrote nothing down.
The next night was music (becoming very common for me) and I was listing the notes. I wrote down the second line, but it makes little sense..something about kids and whatever they did, lol.
Last night I tried very hard and remembered nothing, except that I was listing everything. It all evaporated when I woke up.
Having an image each week could be fun...but a lot of work for you.
Maybe striving for the target will eventually bring my recall back.
Thanks though,
DT
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Hey Diana T
Wow! I think your enthusiasm caused you to time travel to my introduction to (me trying to) Remote View. I would get a thrill every night as I wondered "what was in EyeOneBlacks Star". Then I would wonder if I would get a dream or some hypnagogic imagery as a clue to "what was in EyeOneBlack’s Star".
When I woke up in the morning I would try to remember what I just dreamt but mostly my dreams would evaporate while I was watching them. But I might get a short (quarter to half second) Inner-Image. Then I would find myself humming a song.
I couldn’t wait to get to an Internet Café to post my hipnagog and a link to a Youtube clip of the song. I always “busted” but I didn’t care. I would just feel that happy-thrill every night as I dropped off. Maybe this time I’ll hit.
Diana T you wrote
| Quote: | | I tried, but seem to be singing and listing in my sleep. |
When I began my very own RVE on saltcube I promised to post one target a day (ha, ha, ha). I wanted to wake up every morning and get an hipnagogic image, then go out into the world and find it, snap it, then ask saltcubers to look at a pretty mandala and pick-up what the mandala gave me, in the form of a hipnagogic image.
The first image I got was a orange road cone (witches hat). As I snapped a road cone I started to worry about how I was going to find things to put up as targets, every day. I started to try and list in my head possible targets.
And you were singing and listing in your dream (ha, ha, ha)
Here is a link to the “road-cone” in my 10-Nov-08 04:59 PM post in my thread called "Allgazers Now - Remote Viewing Experiment" (it is the 6th post down)
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=51094&x=30&p=0#51133
Diana T you wrote
| Quote: | On Sunday I dreamt of a lovely school on a mountain above the clouds. I'd signed up for it and was all set to go, but realized shortly before waking that it would take weeks to make the daily trip to work. How did I miss that problem? All throughout the dream, I was listing what was important for the dream (some sort of work). Shortly before awaking, I was listing what I wanted to remember, but actually wrote nothing down.
The next night was music (becoming very common for me) and I was listing the notes. I wrote down the second line, but it makes little sense..something about kids and whatever they did, lol.
Last night I tried very hard and remembered nothing, except that I was listing everything. It all evaporated when I woke up.
Having an image each week could be fun...but a lot of work for you.
Maybe striving for the target will eventually bring my recall back.
Thanks though,
DT |
I want to say more but this post is already a bit long so I will sign off now.
(BFN Debra Jane)
Thursday, October 22, 2009
7:31 PM here in Adelaide, South Australia.
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: ***Hope this inspires you to jump in and have a go at RVing* |
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Hi to everyone who tunes in to this iasd site
Owlene and caroldedreamer both, hosted Remote Viewing experiments on saltcube and I thoroughly loved them.
Here are links to them.
Owlen opened a Remote Viewing Lab this year. Here is the link to Owlene’s remote viewing thread called:
"Owlene's Wings RV Experiment #1--All Are Welcome!"
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=52707
Target was a mask on a purple background
opened 6/Jan/09 closed 14/Jan/09
Participants (2) (cdedream and ultravioletfrog)
"Owlene's Wings RV Experiment #2--All Are Welcome!"
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=52960
Target was: “It was a red, fan used in martial arts in their fan forms”.
Opened 16/Jan/09 closed 18/Jan/09
Participants (2 ) (cdedream and ultravioletfrog)
Here is Caroldedreamer's Remote Viewing thread:
CDe's (Caroldedreamer) RV Code Experiment Finished
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=53176
Participants (5) (Kiauma, owlene, hermit, Sheila, EyeOneBlack)
CdeDream did 16 targets
1 (building) revealed on 21-Jan-09 at 03:00 PM
2 (Four huge satellite dishes) revealed on 23-Jan-09 at 01:21 PM
3 (Building, yellow horizontal lines) revealed on 26-Jan-09 at 01:00 PM
4 (called Undersea Textures) revealed on 28-Jan-09 at 02:24 PM
5 (hot air balloons, lots of them) revealed on 30-Jan-09 at 02:37 PM
6 (little church in country) revealed on 02-Feb-09 at 01:50 PM
7 (Snow-covered Pine Forrest) revealed on 04-Feb-09 at 03:28 PM
8 (happy old mans face) revealed on 06-Feb-09 01:25 PM
9 (High narrow arches) revealed on 09-Feb-09 at 01:54 PM
10 (Obelisk, phallic) revealed on 11-Feb-09 at 11:21 PM
11 (Woman playing tennis with net in foreground) revealed on 13-Feb-09 at 02:28 PM
12 (Silver gravestone on grave yard) revealed on 16-Feb-09 at 11:38 AM
13 (Yellow hard hats tossed in the air) revealed on 18-Feb-09 at 02:07 PM
14 (coiled, at rest, green snake) revealed on 20-Feb-09 at 02:14 PM
15 (corner of blue building with American flag on top) revealed on 23-Feb-09 at 02:41 PM
16 (star-fish) revealed on 25-Feb-09 at 01:58 PM
Other Remote Viewing Laboritories hosted on saltcube.
Remote Viewing Experiments before 2009
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=52551
The link above contains all of Matt’s 35 “Remote Viewing Experiment/Contest’s” and all of EyeOneBlack’s 47 “What's In eyeoneblack's Box? Open RV contest’s”
“The Saltcube RV Files” link below has the Remote Viewing Experiments before 2009:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=57521
2009 Hermit/Ultra's RVE Lab. (Target revealed every Sunday 6pm)
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=52936&p=8
I am posting this in hopes that folks will look (and laugh) at these fun experiments and join in this, my remote viewing thread.
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: ***RV TARGET 003*** |
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Remote Viewing target:
003 28 Oct 09
Onions, Onions, (ha, ha, ha)
if clicking in the link above doesn’t reveal the photo of the target then click on the link below.
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=57803&p=0#58187
Ooooooh I love onions ha, ha, ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM-lEhhsLQw&feature=related
(2:33) 5,375 views
Taget 004 4 Nov 09
will be posted here Wednesday 4 Nove 09
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: Remote Viewing Target 004 4 Nov 09 |
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[img]http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/showImg.jsp?i=/img/usr/ultravioletfrog/125730669065815.jpg[/img]
here is link to pic if you want it.
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=57803&x=165&p=0#58265
In 7 days I will post Remote Viewing Target
005 11 11 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hah, I should have posted. All I pictured when trying to do the reverse remote was a square box. Maybe I was seeing your November 4 target.
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: ***LAZY BUMS*** |
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Thanks Nexys for playing
To the rest of you lazy bums the target will be posted here in just over thirty (30) hours.
You Play
I share
Two way Street, this.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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four corners of the earth
straps
fire barbeque
a football or game plays/strategy
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: ThanQ! ThanQ! ThanQ |
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CaroldeDream
It is 9 am here (11 11 2009) in Adelaide South Australai. I will post target in six (6) hours and that will be 3pm my time.
You will never know how thrilled I was to check here and see your name on my thread. I thought that once again no one would play. U R a bold and exciting woman.
It is unseasonally HOT here. It will be 39 degrees today. That is well over your 100 degree mark.
So, right now, I will get my butt out of thos bed and hall ass down to the sacred beach and do my thing on your behalf (as promised).
I will walk from the Henley Beach jetty chanting
"Everything is perfect"
Then I will touch a Grange Jetty pilon, do a 180, then march back to Henley Beach Jetty, Chanting
"I am always prerared"
And I will get high on the oceans intensely pure air, ZONK OUT and command the Deep Mind to send you waves (VORTICES? Vortexes? Anyway, lors and lots) of Pure Pranic Energy.
LOVE U
LOVE U
LOVE U
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: ***005 11 11 2009*** |
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Here is target
005 11 11 2009
[img]http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/showImg.jsp?i=/img/usr/RVecstasy/125792199186118.jpg[/img]
It is a black granite rock that washed up on my sacred beach after a week of rough seas.
What do I think it is?
What do I think it is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MrKoD7gHtk&feature=related
[img]http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/showImg.jsp?i=/img/usr/RVecstasy/125792199187719.jpg[/img]
Focus on this number to Hone-In on the next target.
006 18 Nov 09
[img]http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/showImg.jsp?i=/img/usr/RVecstasy/125792199187720.jpg[/img]
link to this post on saltcube if picks not visible.
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=57803&x=218&p=1#58360
Oh, Harry or who ever it is who is making my pic’s visible here, and taking out the link when it is no longer needed, Thanx!
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: Using energy to change people |
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I wonder what people feel about the above starting theme, of using a spell to try and change someone to be the way you want.
Because, of course, I am the person, Ultravioletfrog is talking about.
With alot of omitions from reality in her description.
The site I had was not meant to be an open forum. It wasn't like a site like this one, where people come to discuss things. Whether or not they have any experience with direct reality.
But ultra was invited by someone that was not even a member. I let it in.
After I and several people were censored or banned at saltcube.
Which debra oftens leaves out.
I respond to people's individual energy. So I don't treat everyone the same. Because people are not the same. So sites that enforce some general social guidelines, I don't do well at, because spiritually it is constricting.
Not getting into any details, I found the site and its intent was actually making ultra more neurotic and infatuated with me.
The above request for people to show her some spell to work on me, is proof positive, as she had made the same announcement on that site.
That site is invisible now, it is harder for someone in such a state to see.
I felt that I would not be willing to bann anyone from the site, and I didn't.
I made the site invisible so no one can go to it, even me, unless we go in dreaming.
I don't care about the site, I care about someone's energetic state.
Debra likes to run RV experiments, she just doesn't do them herself, and at a site like I had, where it was a place for people to communicate beyond just the physical limitations. She could only try and experience it vicariously through me, hence the infatuation. As she also does at saltcube.
She did try and turn that invisible site intent into a saltcube intent, which I often brought up. But we wouldn't go along. So that was how we were mean to her. So why not a spell to transform someone.
I won't be making any posts on this site after this, because to do so, would give her more chance to continue the infatuation.
But such an energetic spell request is futile, because how I respond to her is based on her energy.
If she was able to transform her energy, then she would magically see me change, as she would most anything or anybody else in her life.
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: Forgiveness |
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By the way.
I am summonerofnothinginparticular at saltcube. 
And Matt knows. |
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Ultravioletfrog
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: ***FORGIVENESS GRANTED*** |
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FORGIVENESS Granted.
TsunaH, Summonerofnothingofnothinginparticular.
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Doing spells to alter someone else would be unethical, even if it were possible. Bad karma, for sure. Why would anyone want to bring that on themselves? You run around trying to control others, and all you bring is others trying to control YOU!
If people want to transform, they have to want it and do it for themselves. Ask anyone who has substance abusers in their lives, and they'll know!
Anyway, why is some feud from someplace called saltcube even on these boards? I haven't been here in awhile, and it seems to have gotten a bit strange.
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If people want to transform, they have to want it and do it for themselves. Ask anyone who has substance abusers in their lives, and they'll know!
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This statement is right on the money.
I'm not sure what the issue is here and I really don't need an explanation about something that occurred on another board, but I do want to make sure we are not entering anyone into an experiment that does not want to be part of it. So please only include those that have expressed their willingness to be included. Let's also try to keep this focused on dreams and not spells. This is a dream discussion board. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: ***Who's the king of the jungle*** |
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Mary Whitefeather Joyce
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I am reminded of a story my abusive father would tell when he was drunk. The story is a major truth for me. I hope you understand.
There was this lion. He went to every animal in his kingdom and asked the question:
“Who is the King of the jungle?”
Each and every animal kowtowed to the majestic lion and said:
“It is you, you are the King of the jungle”
One day the King of the jungle approached an elephant, and roared:
“Who is the king of the jungle?”
The elephant stopped browsing and leisurely turned to see who was addressing him. Then the elephant wrapped his trunk around the king’s body and proceeded to pound the lion’s body on the two trees that he was standing between. Then the elephant casually tossed the battered and bruised body of the lion over his back and continued browsing.
After a while the lion picked himself up and slowly and painfully hobbled back over to the elephant. Looking up into the elephant’s eye he said:
“Well, I was only asking”.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: Remote viewing is dreaming? |
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For my first response, I guess I was drawn to this thread.
On discussions of dreaming, I feel remote viewing doesn't qualify.
If anyone doesn't get why, I can understand, because there is alot of 'lack of clearly defining' what remote viewing is.
Which is a form of clairvoyance or telepathy.
It is confused with dreaming, because sometimes people go into dreaming to find what they are trying to perceive.
I have come across this in many sites, where people will be doing these Remote viewing experiments. It is pretty prevalent.
And often it is facilitated by people that don't do it themselves, and don't understand what it is they are actually doing. They are just enjoying the show. Though I have yet to meet anyone that would admit that, honestly.
When you remote view for someone like that in 'their' experiment, you are literally linking your energy form to theirs.
So if that is of interest, it would atleast be prudent to know who you are linking up to. Who they are. Because I have observed people doing it with anyone they meet on the internet.
If it is someone that is prone to desire using emotional energy to change someone else, that may or may not be a red flag for you.
A technique to use, could be; Before going into a remote viewing session with someone you just met, remote view them to observe who they are.
That can be far more accurate then just going by what they say about themselves and their intent. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: ***Tell me more Saampunku*** |
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Hi Saampunku
I am new to this site. I joined after the iasd run “On-line” Psi_Dreaming Conference (PDC) finished.
In 2005 I was new to computers and while trying to learn about the Internet I clicked on something called Yahoogroups. There were tons of forums and chat groups for almost every hobby you could think of. I found a stack of Yahoogroup-dreamgroups. I picked iasd PsiDreams, here is the link
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/iasd-PsiDreams/
I joined this yahoogroup just to learn how to, and to see what would happen. I was so scared that I made a new and very fictitious Yahoo-email account.
anonanon1959
Aug 19, 2005 (when I joined)
The above is from the membership list and it is me.
Next thing I knew was that my inbox was getting overloaded with emails from this site. In those days I might only visit an Internet Café to check my emails once or twice a pension fortnight. I used to panic and just delete all the emails unopened. I had no idea how to stop it, so I would delete them or occasionally open a couple out of curiosity. Those I opened were just a sentence or two and didn’t make any sense, so I went back to deleting them unopened.
Everything changed one fateful day. On Saturday morning March 1st 2008 I woke up out of a strange dream. I typed it up on my “stand-alone” computer. I put the Word Document onto floppy and chuffed-off to Subbies Internet Café to email the dream to a friend.
When I opened my email account there was one lonesome email in my inbox and it was from the “yahoogroups, iasd-PsiDreams forum”.
It was an invitation from Jeniffer Dumpert to the folks on iasd-PsiDreams to join here group and (???) … join her group in dream space.
Without knowing about the experiment, I already did. The dream I was about to send to my friend in Melbourne corresponded to all her instructions.
After that I opened and read, with deep interest, every message that was posted on that site.
I joined iasd and they sent me eight magazines over a year but I never read them (too hard for me to understand). I got a free pass to the 2008 online Psi-Dream Conference but I found it overwhelming. Then the Yahoogroups, iasd PsiDreams site went slow and then seemed to die. I complained to someone that used to post there a lot and she gave me a link to a site she was enjoying call saltcube.
I joined during EyeOneBlack’s 30th Remote Viewing Experiment on saltcube.
And the rest, as they say, is history.
I love remote viewing.
I don’t understand remote viewing Saampunku, so I appreciate any thing you have to say on the subject.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Remote viewing is dreaming? |
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| Saampunku wrote: | For my first response, I guess I was drawn to this thread.
On discussions of dreaming, I feel remote viewing doesn't qualify.
If anyone doesn't get why, I can understand, because there is alot of 'lack of clearly defining' what remote viewing is.
Which is a form of clairvoyance or telepathy.
It is confused with dreaming, because sometimes people go into dreaming to find what they are trying to perceive.
I have come across this in many sites, where people will be doing these Remote viewing experiments. It is pretty prevalent.
And often it is facilitated by people that don't do it themselves, and don't understand what it is they are actually doing. They are just enjoying the show. Though I have yet to meet anyone that would admit that, honestly.
When you remote view for someone like that in 'their' experiment, you are literally linking your energy form to theirs.
ok Saampunku
My diognosis is Dissiciative Dissorder with Imaginative Reconstruction and Borderline Personality.
Are you saying that folks who remote view my targets will end up crazy, like me?
So if that is of interest, it would atleast be prudent to know who you are linking up to. Who they are. Because I have observed people doing it with anyone they meet on the internet.
If it is someone that is prone to desire using emotional energy to change someone else, that may or may not be a red flag for you.
A technique to use, could be; Before going into a remote viewing session with someone you just met, remote view them to observe who they are.
That can be far more accurate then just going by what they say about themselves and their intent. |
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| Ultravioletfrog wrote: | ok Saampunku
My diognosis is Dissiciative Dissorder with Imaginative Reconstruction and Borderline Personality.
Are you saying that folks who remote view my targets will end up crazy, like me? |
I think what he was saying was that if a person is seeking spells to control or manipulate others, then they might not be someone you'd want to connect with in mutual dreamwork, such as allowing them to send psi for them to receive, because this opens them up psychically to someone who may not have developed good ethics about such practices. It's a good idea to maintain certain boundaries, and not just be open to every stranger on the internet.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Remote viewing is dreaming? |
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| Rainbow wrote: | | Ultravioletfrog wrote: | ok Saampunku
My diognosis is Dissiciative Dissorder with Imaginative Reconstruction and Borderline Personality.
Are you saying that folks who remote view my targets will end up crazy, like me? |
I think what he was saying was that if a person is seeking spells to control or manipulate others, then they might not be someone you'd want to connect with in mutual dreamwork, such as allowing them to send psi for them to receive, because this opens them up psychically to someone who may not have developed good ethics about such practices. It's a good idea to maintain certain boundaries, and not just be open to every stranger on the internet. |
Thank you, that is exactly what I meant. But someone that is seeking to control people through spells, is likely to spin it another way. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: ***Transforming Mean Folk*** |
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: ***How I REMOTE VIEW*** |
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OK Rainbow and Saampunku
Oh, and TsunaH/Sommonerofnothinginparticular
This is a message in a thread called “devine love” on saltcube. The Thread called “devine love” was opened by noles1000 on 16-Mar-09. Noles1000 opened by saying:
“hi all, has anyone every had an inmease feeling of devine love? feeling at all times? like a warm wash of sunshine? just randomly? like you could cry at the beauty of humanity, i have had this feeling usually in the day, however i have also recently had this feeling at night, has anyone else ever felt this.”
On 20-Mar-09 I contributed to this thread and I was talking with sommonerofnothinginpatricular (Sommoner). Here is my post:
Hermit
Registered
Hi Summoner
My god is just another imaginary god but at least I can merge with this one without any fear.
I use merging to Remote View. And merging is how I do most everything, so it is important to me that I trust what I merge with.
If I get into my head and try answering those questions I might get sad because I am not very intelligent. I hope you don't mind.
I just pick-up stuff I can use from what people say (here on saltcube and elsewhere) and give it a whirl. (end of post)
The way I Remote View Saampunku and Rainbow, doesn’t open me up to influences of humans (good or bad).
Here is the thread:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=55059&p=0
log-in then come back and hit link again.
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: Saltcube,saltcube |
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Above, the tsunah says something about trying to change the intent of his site into saltcube.
Looking at all these links to saltcube, I can believe it may be happening here also.
I went to the site expecting to see something related to this site, but I saw alot of threads started by the owner where he is ranting about Obama being disrespectful and unpatriotic. And other anti-goverment propoganda.
From what I saw, it clearly shows what happens when people get involved with energetic practices like remote viewing and lucid dreaming, but they haven't really left the world behind in themselves. They still take sides in the social world and get caught up in emotional viewpoints.
I am not concerned what you do to yourself ultrvioletfrog, with Remote viewing. You don't know enough to even do it yet.
I was suggesting to other people to look at who they are doing it with.
If someone can't tell that the person they are doing it with, doesn't have any firsthand experience themselves, it is like that saying, 'if you look around the table and can't tell who the sucker is, then it is most likely you"
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Remote viewing is dreaming? |
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| Saampunku wrote: | On discussions of dreaming, I feel remote viewing doesn't qualify.
If anyone doesn't get why, I can understand, because there is alot of 'lack of clearly defining' what remote viewing is.
Which is a form of clairvoyance or telepathy. |
I'm glad I understood you rightly!
I had a weird experience last night. I rarely try to do remote viewing deliberately, or even incubate dreams deliberately, preferring to let what may come on its own. But I had this odd dream that woke me up, and all I could say about it is that it felt like I was remote viewing, but I haven't a clue where or why. I woke up during the dream and it was as if I was looking through a telescope almost, as the picture was round, not filling my dreamscreen. I was looking at the inside of a restaurant, which was totally vacant of people. No one was there. The restaurant seemed huge, and I got these images through this kind of telescope thingy. I remember there were sections of wall and also the banquettes or semi-circular seats around the tables that had this intricate patterned fabric in red, black, and metallic gold. It made me think it was Mediterranean decor, something about the pattern reminded me of mosaics from that area, but I never saw any food, never saw any people. Just the decor of the inside of an empty restaurant.
I do think often remote viewing occurs during a dream. This one started there, but then I was awake and viewing consciously. I've often had that happen with family members and then gotten the events confirmed later.
Strange, huh?
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Oh, yeah, it sure is! I'm still puzzling on that. I wonder if it's a restaurant I will encounter in the future, something new opening in my area? It would stand to reason that it would be closed that early in the day... I think around four a.m.... in my area! Or it might be closed if it's new and hasn't opened yet! Time will tell...
Why do I suddenly have a craving for olive oil and garlic? 
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Link will take you to my thread called:
“RV target posted every Wednesday (saltcubetime)”
For this weeks target {006 18 Nov 09}
Go to page 2, it is post 10 on page 2 and it was posted at:
08:12 AM on Wednesday 18-Nov-09 (saltcube time)
Hit the link
Log in
Come back here
And hit the link again.
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=57803&p=0
I like reading all the posts on this iasd site but I don’t think I will be posting here no more.
So if you want to keep tabs on my remote viewing thread, use the link above.
And
Relax Saampunku
This is the last time I will put in a link to saltcube.
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I don't even understand the links you are trying to post. What is the point? It doesn't make any sense. you look at a date and try to guess what picture you are thinking of????? |
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I don't even understand the links you are trying to post. What is the point? It doesn't make any sense. you look at a date and try to guess what picture you are thinking of????? |
What's that link again? I think we missed it the first ninety times. 
Ultra isn't doing anything but saying, "sit, sit, roll over, play dead, remote view this target."
Like pets, we have to keep doing it for her amusement.
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: Varied perspectives |
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| Leeballz wrote: | | Let's just try to understand that we all have different perspectives on life/dreaming and try to keep it civil. On this board, all perspectives are welcome. If we stifle what someone is getting from their dreaming experience, how can we expect to get a wide range of perspectives? If you do not agree with a certain post, then state your disagreement, but please do not make others feel unwelcome or unwanted. Thank you. |
I can completely understand someone else's perspective, and yet do what I do.
I understand the people I talk to.
But everyone being civil doesn't help spiritual growth. And yet that is a prevalent in forums of this nature.
If I am stifled because someone else said what I believed was not real, or that it was wrong, then I am not going to make it very far anyway, out there in those dreaming planes.
I feel moderation on these kinds of sites, where people will be going out into the unknown in dreaming and facing their fears regardless of if they want to or not, is setting them up to run back to the known. By protecting them from themselves.
What I do is not that obvious. I went through a period of using spells and curses to control my fears, so I don't really begrudge anyone else going through that experience themselves.
But if we are going to understand all perspectives, why not the perspective of energetic growth through conflict. Or in other words, 'life'
People noticed that there is alot of conflict in life, and how free they felt when they where able to overcome even some small part of it?
But what happens when someone jumps in and referees or puts a stop to something between peoples before that turnining point?
Not much, they don't get a chance to work through that.
Not that you can always work through something with others. Sometimes it is not the time, and you have to step back. But I feel that is best left up to the people directly involved.
I have had people try and make me feel unwelcome at sites, but it usually became something I couln't get passed, when my posting was moderated in some way.
I mean, what can I do at a site, if I can't be what I feel?
It is one thing if someone says what I am doing is wrong, but another if I could be subject to deleted posts or other forms of moderation.
If someone says they think I am wrong to do spells, but I feel it represents something significant to me, then what they say doesn't matter.
But if I was moderated for some kind of expression, there isn't much I can do about that.
I can say something like this to see how 'open' people really are to different perspectives beyond what is 'nice, civil, polite' social rules.
But if it is still; 'no, can't do that'
I don't submit. Because I don't feel I can really understand someone else's perspective if we all are expected to express the same way. Civil.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: ***thankx IRonballz*** |
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Thankx iron ballz
I felt ganged-up-on.
I got wimpy (like I often did on TsunaHs "A Journey in Many Ways" closed site). I reconed that all I could do was runaway from this site cause a big New Elephant called Saampunka (or something) had appeared.
To me, U cracked the whip for me. Ha, ha, ha, U made the big cruel elephant defend himself. Ha, ha, ha, I AM PROTECTED.
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I like the Big Cruel Elephant.
Don't moderate him/her on my behalf.
I hate the way this site only sends a link to a new post on a thread I am watching. Saltcube sends the post then gives me the option to view or reply or quote and reply or browse more threads.
One GREAT thing about salcube sending the actual post to me is, if that post is, say, deleted by the author, or altered by a moderator, at least I have the original, befor it was altered or deleted.
I'm complaining because, I swear there was 2 messages from Saampuku. I read the one on this (my) thread and was delighted. So I got in and answered it. In as mean a way as I could (ha, ha, ha).
Just now I went looking for Saampunku's 2nd message and it was gone. And because of the ROTTEN way this site is set up I will never know what that message was.
Even the old Yahoogroups iasd PsiDreams site sends you the message (not just a notification). For example, on of my favourite posters "Dr Robert Lance Van de Castle" posted, resently, on the iasd Yahoogroups website and I got it in my email box. A few days later I used bobs emai to visit "my group" but he had deleated his post.
But I had my copy of it in my email box so I posted a reply anyway. As a result I got a lovely private reply from my second most favourite poster on iasd PsiDreams yahoogroups site (massimo).
But thanks to the dumb way this site is set up I have lost Saampunku's second post (boo-hoo).
I REALY love to hate this guy so don't moderate him on my behalf.
| Saampunku wrote: | | Leeballz wrote: | | Let's just try to understand that we all have different perspectives on life/dreaming and try to keep it civil. On this board, all perspectives are welcome. If we stifle what someone is getting from their dreaming experience, how can we expect to get a wide range of perspectives? If you do not agree with a certain post, then state your disagreement, but please do not make others feel unwelcome or unwanted. Thank you. |
I can completely understand someone else's perspective, and yet do what I do.
I understand the people I talk to.
But everyone being civil doesn't help spiritual growth. And yet that is a prevalent in forums of this nature.
If I am stifled because someone else said what I believed was not real, or that it was wrong, then I am not going to make it very far anyway, out there in those dreaming planes.
I feel moderation on these kinds of sites, where people will be going out into the unknown in dreaming and facing their fears regardless of if they want to or not, is setting them up to run back to the known. By protecting them from themselves.
What I do is not that obvious. I went through a period of using spells and curses to control my fears, so I don't really begrudge anyone else going through that experience themselves.
But if we are going to understand all perspectives, why not the perspective of energetic growth through conflict. Or in other words, 'life'
People noticed that there is alot of conflict in life, and how free they felt when they where able to overcome even some small part of it?
But what happens when someone jumps in and referees or puts a stop to something between peoples before that turnining point?
Not much, they don't get a chance to work through that.
Not that you can always work through something with others. Sometimes it is not the time, and you have to step back. But I feel that is best left up to the people directly involved.
I have had people try and make me feel unwelcome at sites, but it usually became something I couln't get passed, when my posting was moderated in some way.
I mean, what can I do at a site, if I can't be what I feel?
It is one thing if someone says what I am doing is wrong, but another if I could be subject to deleted posts or other forms of moderation.
If someone says they think I am wrong to do spells, but I feel it represents something significant to me, then what they say doesn't matter.
But if I was moderated for some kind of expression, there isn't much I can do about that.
I can say something like this to see how 'open' people really are to different perspectives beyond what is 'nice, civil, polite' social rules.
But if it is still; 'no, can't do that'
I don't submit. Because I don't feel I can really understand someone else's perspective if we all are expected to express the same way. Civil. |
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